Infrastructure NBFCs: On stable footing amidst a crisis

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Summing up, the future of NBFC-IFCs is promising despite concerns.

By Manushree Saggar & Deep Singh

Infrastructure finance non-bank companies (NBFC-IFCs) have remained largely resilient to the Covid-19 crisis. While growth of NBFC-IFCs moderated over the last two years, the asset quality indicators have improved and, with a higher provision coverage (64% as of March 31, 2021, the strongest level since March 2016), their solvency too has improved. Moderate growth and healthy internal accruals have led to a decline in leverage, giving the entities further headroom for growth in the medium term. Improved systemic liquidity and consequent softening of cost of borrowings has also supported the earnings profile. Thus, the outlook for the sector is ‘Stable’ despite a challenging operating environment.

With infra credit penetration to GDP estimated at 10.9% as of March 31, 2021 compared to 12.4% in 2015 and 10-year average of ~11.4%, the growth potential is encouraging. This growth will be well supported by the government of India’s investment target of Rs 111 lakh crore under the National Infrastructure Pipeline (NIP) till 2025. A stronger NBFC-IFC balance sheet therefore will enable them to be a partner in this evolving growth story. At the same time, timely resolution of existing stressed assets would be critical for sustained improvement in the credit profile of these entities.

As for recent trends for NBFC-IFCs, their portfolio growth was flat in Q1FY2022, after improving in H2FY2021. In FY2021, while IFCs reported healthy credit growth of 16%, banks reported just 4% growth; the former were also helped by the Centre’s liquidity package for discoms, besides continued growth in IRFCs assets under management. Consequently, IFCs’ share in total infrastructure credit increased to 54% as of March 31, 2021 (from 39% five years ago) vis-a vis banks’ share of 46%.

Going forward, as resolution/recoveries gather pace, the improvement in asset quality indicators is expected to continue. The reported stage 3% for these entities declined to 4.1% as of March 31, 2021 (peak level of 7.3% on March 31, 2018) and remained stable at the end of Q1FY22. However, stage 2%, which is driven by state sector customers, was volatile and at elevated levels even as incremental slippages were controlled. As of March 31, 2021, the proportion of IFC portfolio restructuring was less than 1%; and the impact of the second wave has been negligible. This, coupled with further resolution of pending stressed assets in the near term, could lead to a further improvement in IFCs’ asset quality indicators.

In terms of portfolio vulnerability, solar and wind projects backed by relatively weaker credit promoter group and higher exposure to state discoms with extended receivable cycles, remain a monitorable. Also, NBFC-IFCs continue to face high concentration risks, thereby making them prone to lumpy slippages.

The ALM profile of IFCs, which was characterised by sizeable cumulative negative mismatches in the up to one-year buckets, improved in recent quarters, with long-term funds replacing short-term borrowings, supported by favourable systemic rates and higher on-balance sheet liquidity. However, the trend may not continue over the longer term. Hence, the liquidity profile of these entities is expected to remain dependent on their refinancing ability. Significantly, most IFCs maintain adequate sanctioned but undrawn bank lines to plug the ALM mismatches and enjoy healthy financial flexibility given their strong parentage.

With favourable borrowing cost trajectory and steady decline in non-performing loans, Public-IFCs achieved better RoA of 1.8% in FY2021 (six-year average 1.7%); however, the profitability of Private-IFCs remains considerably lower with a sub-par RoA of 1.19% (five-year average 1.21%).

Summing up, the future of NBFC-IFCs is promising despite concerns.

Manushree Saggar is Vice President & Sector Head and Deep Singh is Vice President, ICRA

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Is it still too early to judge the success of IBC?

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There is still a debate on whether the IBC has been a success. The view here is that it may be still too early to judge, but credit should be given to the Insolvency and Bankruptcy Board of India (IBBI) for having this system in place. And, more importantly, we need to have this structure, which could be fine-tuned, if required.

The path has not been smooth for sure as defaulters do not want to give up on their assets and believe that it is okay to not service loans. The RBI had to fight a battle here (the famous February 12, 2018 notification) with the government, and the courts had ruled that this could not be driven by the central bank.

Onus on banks

The RBI had to retreat and dilute its circular, and finally put the onus on banks to ensure that defaulters are taken to the IBC. Therefore, the modified rules now increase the provisions that must be made by banks in the absence of a resolution plan not being implemented in a timely manner. Recovery through the IBC has been higher in FY20, according to the RBI, at 46 per cent, compared with SARFAESI, DRTs or Lok Adalat.

This number came down in FY21 and, as of June 2021, was at 36 per cent, which was again expected, given that the government had provided relief for six months for companies, which was extended in September 2020 by another three months. The IBC was to have a benchmark of 180 days, with another extension of 90 days, to resolve the cases before insolvency proceedings were invoked. It is again not surprising that it has been pointed out that over 75 per cent of the ongoing cases are over 270 days, especially due to the pandemic, and the various measures taken for restructuring assets as well as moratorium provided last year.

The metric which can be used to measure the success of insolvency resolution is the recovery rate. In the past it was in the region of 20 per cent, which means that 40 per cent-plus according to the IBC is good. True, when the dirty dozen was sifted to begin with, the recovery rates were impressive at 70 per cent-plus, but this is exactly where the conundrum lies. As proceedings get delayed, the realisation will fall, especially if the plants are not operational to the full extent as the value comes down under such conditions.

Global recession

Further, markets have changed significantly due to the global recession last year, and the pandemic has altered the way of doing business. Again, a change in ideology, especially towards ESG, means that conventional power-generating companies are no longer attractive. The same holds for industries that contribute to a rise in emissions. This means that progressively buyers will get scarce leading to bigger haircuts. This will come in the way of further resolution of NPAs.

‘Bad bank’

The National Asset Reconstruction Company is now being formed and will soon be operational as a bad bank. The idea is not new as the asset reconstruction companies that were in operation were not able to do complete justice to the task, which led to the IBC. Now, with the NARC coming up, there will be diversion of proposals potentially from the IBC to NARC.

The issue is in the realm of game theory. All sellers of bad assets want the best realisation, while the buyer wants to pay the lowest amount. This leads to the bargaining game, which, so far, has been in favour of the buyer.

The IBC tries to change the dynamics by forcing such assets to be put on the table and, more importantly, keeping it time-bound. NARC being owned by the public sector should work as PSBs were always scared of selling assets to the asset reconstruction companies as audit at a later date could jeopardise their stance.

Owners of assets will always drag their feet and look for legal recourse, which was the case earlier. The point made by the defaulting companies is straight forward. If all NPAs are going to be auctioned after 270 days, then the incentive to invest will come down as will risk-taking ability. The fear of failure will come in the way of setting up new enterprises. Therefore, the banking system must be tolerant, especially when the failure of business is due to the economic environment and is not a ‘willful action’. The argument is strong, but given that banks deal with deposit holders’ money, there is a moral dilemma.

When the IBC came up with numbers like 180 days with an extension of 90 days, it was done after careful deliberation. Now, it is 330 days. In 2015, the World Bank Doing Business Indicators highlighted that it took 4.3 years for resolution of insolvency with a recovery of 25.7 per cent. For China, it was 1.7 years with recovery of 36 per cent.

Therefore, the progress made has been more than satisfactory over the years. All such processes, which involve legal issues as well as sentiment tend to run into the law of diminishing returns wherein once the low hanging fruits are plucked, it gets progressively difficult as one climbs up.

The IBBI has reported that of the 4,541 CIRPs admitted since June 2016, around 63 per cent have been closed, which is quite impressive, given the number that is involved. This is notwithstanding the various hiccups that have been encountered starting with the availability of professionals to companies seeking recourse to courts to protect their assets. The recovery rates could come down further with time, which can moderate to around 30-33 per cent. But having the IBC is essential to hold out a credible threat to companies.

Bond market

Also, as there is serious talk of growing the corporate bond market, the success of a resolution system is important. When there are NPAs the problem is for bankers who must make provisions and chase the borrowers.

However, when it comes to the bond market, there is no system of recourse except the legal system, and an individual bond holder will not know what to do in case of a default. Therefore, the country has to work hard to ensure that the resolution processes get stronger, including all institutions such as IBBI (IBC), DRT, ARCs, as the future growth of the economy has to come from the bond market, which cannot get out of the shell of being only a platform for AAA and AA-rated companies as 80 per cent of the corporates do not have such ratings.

(The writer is Chief Economist, CARE Ratings, and author of Hits & Misses: The Indian Banking Story. Views are personal)

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India needs 4-5 SBI-size banks to meet growing needs of economy: Sitharaman

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India needs at least four or five different State Bank of India (SBI) size banks to meet the growing needs of the economy, said Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman. She also urged Indian Banks’ Association (IBA) to develop a digitised district-wise map of bank branches so that locations with no banking presence are identified to ensure that they either have a physical or digital footprint.

“One of the driving forces for the amalgamation (of banks) was that we need to scale up banking to meet the new changing and growing requirements of the economy. But that was thought of even before the pandemic. Now all the more reason why we would need four or five SBIs in the country,” Sitharaman said at the 74th AGM of the Indian Banks’ Association.

SBI is India’s largest bank with total deposits of ₹37.20 lakh crore and gross advances of ₹25.23 lakh crore as at June-end 2021.

“Amalgamation is a very important exercise because the way in which the economy is shifting to a different plane altogether, the way in which the economy, together with the industry, is also looking at various ways of adapting to a post-pandemic era, there are ever so many challenges. And, in fact, even before the pandemic, one of the driving forces for the amalgamation was that India needs a lot more banks, a lot more big banks,” she said.

Financial inclusion

On the need to expand banking to achieve financial inclusion, Sitharaman said, “Even today, there are very many districts in which even big panchayats don’t have a physical bank. I am not saying that everywhere you need to have physical, brick-and-mortar banks. Digitisation has saved a lot of cost for you even without compromising on the service you provide. But even then there are such parts of this country which cannot but have at least one brick and mortar [bank],” Sitharaman said.

The minister observed that almost two-thirds of the panchayats have already been given optical fibre connections under the government’s optical fibre connectivity programme.

However, there are heavy economic activity dominant areas in which not even one bank prevails. The minister asked the bankers to closely look at the centres of economic activities, even if they are completely in rural areas.

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New auto-debit rules: Banks, merchants working on a common platform

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Banks are working on a common industry-wide platform to comply with the Reserve Bank of India’s norms on auto-debit which will come into effect from October 1.

While banks including Kotak Mahindra, ICICI, HDFC and Axis are individually putting in place mechanisms to meet the deadline, they are working with merchants to make the new platform live for customers at the earliest.

In a communication to customers, HDFC Bank said until the platform goes live, customers can pay directly at the merchant website or app, use net banking to register with BillPay, or set auto-pay (Standing Instructions) on debit and credit cards via BillPay.

BillDesk and Razorpay are the two companies working with banks to meet the auto-debit norms.

A Kotak Mahindra group spokesperson said, “To ensure a smooth transition, the merchant and merchant aggregators’ ecosystem also needs to be in a state of readiness. The bank is closely working with merchant/merchant aggregators to ensure minimal disruption for customers.” Similarly, in a communication to customers, ICICI Bank has also updated them on standing instructions on credit and debit card, adding that there will be Mandatory Additional Factor Authentication for a bill amount higher than ₹5,000 or if the bill amount is greater than the deductible limit set.

Authentication factor

The Reserve Bank of India had, in March, extended the deadline for banks to comply with norms for processing recurring online transactions by six months to September 30.

With an objective to making online transactions secure, the RBI has introduced an additional factor authentication for cards, wallets, prepaid instruments and UPI during registration and first transaction (with relaxation for subsequent transactions up to a limit of ₹5,000), as well as pre-transaction notification and facility to withdraw the mandate.

However, many banks had failed to comply by the earlier deadline of March-end following which the RBI had decided to extend the deadline to prevent any inconvenience to the customers.

UPI-enabled mandates

Meanwhile, the UPI AutoPay option has been gaining popularity among customers who are grappling with the change as well.

Kotak Mahindra Bank said it is also already live on UPI-based mandates and the initial user adoption is encouraging.

“We expect a surge in card and UPI-based mandates as more merchants start offering and more consumers start setting up e-mandates,” it said.

Earlier this month, PhonePe said it has registered over 10 lakh UPI-enabled AutoPay mandates since the feature was launched in June this year.

“UPI AutoPay has been enabled on PhonePe for varied use cases such as mutual funds SIPs, Wallet Auto top-ups and for OTT subscription renewals,” it had said.

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G-secs react to the beginning of Fed taper

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Three things happened last week that made happy bond traders trim their long positions, at least, to a certain extent ahead of the second half borrowing calendar set to be released this week.

US treasury yields shot up after the Federal Reserve stated it could cut back on its bond purchases beginning November and conclude the process by the middle of 2022. The 10-year treasury yield climbed to 1.45 per cent on Friday from 1.37 per cent, the week before. The proximity of the taper process and the expectation of US Fed Funds rate to be increased by the end of 2022, brought forth risk-off trades in bond markets. The G-sec yields too rose from 6.14 to 6.19 per cent after the FOMC meeting. As one bond trader described, “When the US sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold.”

And as if that wasn’t enough, crude prices continued to rise for the third straight week and hit close to three-year highs over global output disruptions, tightening inventories and persisting demand.

Key events back home

Higher crude prices tend to negatively impact bond prices due to the impact they have on fuel inflation and monetary policy decisions. On the domestic front, the Reserve Bank of India did come out with the much awaited G-SAP auction. The Central bank announced a simultaneous purchase and sale of securities which means the net liquidity injection into the market was nil. The Central bank conducted purchases of long tenor bonds maturing in 2028, 2031, and 2035, cumulatively amounting to ₹15,000 crore while selling short-tenor bonds maturing in 2022, also amounting to ₹15,000 crore. Next week too, the RBI will be conducting a similar operation of simultaneous purchase and sale of long and short tenor bonds, respectively. Bond market participants say that although it was a minor dampener, they have come to terms with the fact that the RBI may not be too comfortable with the high amount of liquidity prevailing in the market.

The benchmark yield hit 6.19 per cent last week having risen from the lows of 6.12 per cent seen the week before.

Going forward, the second half borrowing calendar and the monetary policy outcome in early October will be key events. In case the second half borrowing figure comes below ₹5-lakh crore, the benchmark yield could retest the 6.1 per cent level. However, if the borrowing figure is higher than ₹5.5-lakh crore, the 10-year yield could breach the 6.23 per cent level, traders say.

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As China bans cryptocurrencies, Indian exchanges ‘feel the heat’

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China’s blanket ban on crypto mining and transactions resulted in a 9.26 per cent fall in the global cryptocurrency market capitalisation on Sunday and a 29.8 per cent decrease in trading volume. Indian crypto trading ecosystem, too, witnessed a slowdown in trading volume by about 30 per cent.

For example, CoinSwitch Kuber saw its total crypto transactions over the weekend plunge by nearly 30 per cent, while there was a 50 per cent decrease in the volume of transactions compared to the average monthly trade volume.

‘Had more buying orders’

Sharan Nair, CBO, CoinSwitch Kuber, sees this as a short-term trend. “In my experience in the industry over the years, it always bounces back. Many older investors who have been invested in the crypto market for over a year were looking for better deals on cryptos as the prices dived during the weekend. A few of the newer ones who have recently joined, say about four to five months back, were panicking a bit and were trying to sell, but overall we still had more buying orders,” he told BusinessLine.

“As the price of Bitcoin and Ethereum dropped by around 7-10 per cent, the prices of other smaller cryptocurrencies fell by 20 per cent or more. Many utilised the opportunity to buy more Bitcoins, while others bought alternative cryptocurrencies at much lower prices, Gaurav Dahake, founder and CEO, Bitbns, told BusinessLine.

“Cryptocurrencies such as Solana and Terra Luna found more buyers. This was a short-term reaction, the prices have already started going up,” he added.

As of Sunday evening, Bitcoin still continued to trade in red, reaching $43,316.17 against $45,059.20 on Friday when the announcement came out.

Total market cap

Around the same time, total market capitalisation recovered slightly to reach $1.942 trillion and the volumes touched 200.128 billion, though still away from Friday’s market cap of $2.03 trillion and volume of $240.099 billion, according to numbers on TradingView.

Kapil Rathi, Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer at Cross Tower, said: “The tether stablecoin, USDT, is trading below its market price, indicating an outflow from China. Normally, USDT trades at a 1.5 per cent negative premium to its equivalent value in the Chinese Yuan.

“In last 24 hours, we have seen it trading as low as 4.3 per cent below those averages on OTC markets in Asia.”

“Some panic selling will happen, but it is a knee-jerk reaction. It will get corrected to some extent. One must realise this is not the first time something like this has happened,” said Sathvik Vishwanath, co-founder of cryptocurrency exchange Unocoin.

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HDFC to double its rural reach to 2 lakh villages in the next 18-24 months

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Private sector lender HDFC Bank plans to expand its reach to 2 lakh villages over the next 18 to 24 months.

“The bank plans this expansion through a combination of branch network, business correspondents, business facilitators, CSC partners, virtual relationship management and digital outreach platforms,” it said in a statement on Sunday, adding this would increase its rural outreach to about a third of the country’s villages.

HDFC Bank currently offers its products and services to MSMEs in over 550 districts and its rural banking services extend to 1,00,000 villages. It aims to double this to 2,00,000 villages. As a part of this plan, it plans to hire 2,500 more people in the next six months.

“India’s rural and semi-urban markets are under-served in credit extension. They present sustainable long-term growth opportunities for the Indian banking system. Going forward we dream of making ourselves accessible in every pin code,” said Rahul Shukla, Group Head – Commercial and Rural Banking, HDFC Bank.

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HDFC Bank aims to tap more rural MSMEs; plans to expand reach to 2 lakh villages in 2 years

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Towards its goal of rural expansion, HDFC bank is looking to hire 2,500 people in the next six months. (Image: Reuters)

Credit and Finance for MSMEs: India’s most valuable private lender HDFC Bank on Sunday said it is aiming to double its rural reach in the coming two years while it looks to “extend its leadership in MSME banking.” The bank is targeting expansion of its services to 2 lakh villages in the coming 18-24 months from the current 1 lakh villages. It is planning the expansion through a combination of branch network, business correspondents, business facilitators, CSC partners, virtual relationship management, and digital outreach platforms, it said in a statement. This will increase the bank’s rural outreach to around one-third of India’s villages.

Towards its goal of rural expansion, HDFC bank is looking to hire 2,500 people in the next six months. “India’s rural and semi-urban markets are under-served in credit extension. They present sustainable long-term growth opportunities for the Indian banking system. HDFC Bank remains committed to extend credit, responsibly, in service of the nation. Going forward we dream of making ourselves accessible in every pin code,” said Rahul Shukla, Group Head – Commercial and Rural Banking, HDFC Bank.

HDFC Bank, which claimed to be the second-largest lender to the MSME segment in India, offers its services to MSMEs in over 550 districts in the country. It already offers customised offerings such as pre-and post-harvest crop loans, two-wheeler and auto loans, loans against gold jewellery, and other curated loan products in unbanked and under-banked geographies. The bank saw its MSME loan book grow by 30 per cent from December 2019 to 2020 and stand at pre-Covid levels, according to a statement in March this year. It is also among the top banks in terms of extension of credit under the ECLGS scheme which stood at around Rs. 23,000 crore as of December 31, 2020.

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Earlier this month, HDFC Bank had signed an MoU with National Small Industries Corporation (NSIC) to offer credit support to MSMEs. The bank will accept loan applications forwarded by NSIC and consider sanctioning loans on a merit basis and as per the bank’s lending norms. It will also look at financing projects relating to MSME Sector at different places where bank branches are located or other important industrial centers in the country. Likewise, in partnership with the government’s Common Service Centre Special Purpose Vehicle (CSC SPV) in July, HDFC Bank had launched an overdraft facility of Rs 50,000- Rs 10 lakh for small retailers operating for a minimum of three years by providing six months bank statement from any bank.

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China’s decision to declare crypto illegal sparks panic sales in India, BFSI News, ET BFSI

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Mumbai: Several Indian investors rushed to square off their positions in smaller cryptocurrencies while others took refuge in safer names like Bitcoin and Ethereum as the asset class tumbled on Friday and Saturday after the Chinese central bank declared all cryptocurrencies illegal.

Transaction volumes surged nearly 50% at top Indian exchanges in the past two days, industry trackers told ET. In most cases, exchanges dealing in such assets saw a rush to sell smaller crypto currencies. Industry trackers said veteran investors were relatively calm, but those new to the cryptocurrency market reacted to the news flow from Beijing.

“The largest sell-offs we’ve seen are in the biggest gainers as investors are likely to cash out their investments in assets like Cardano, Solana, Matic and the like,” said Shivam Thakral, chief executive, BuyUcoin, a cryptocurrency exchange. Industry trackers said that while even Bitcoin witnessed a sell-off, only a small percentage of investors lightened positions.

In some cases, some investors switched to Bitcoin and Ethereum from smaller crypto assets.

Until the beginning of this year, most Indians were putting a large chunk of their money in Bitcoin. That changed lately as many new age investors entered the cryptocurrency market.

Exchanges dealing in such assets expect the China impact to be temporary, although the next few days may see more panic selling before the dust settles.

George Zarya, chief executive at digital asset brokerage and exchange Bequant, said, “China has been known to go to extremes with either very assertive statements and prosecutions or complete radio silence.”

‘China Will Not Support’
“This time, the point was made very clear, that China will not support cryptocurrency market development as it goes against its policies of tightening up control over capital flow and big tech,” said Zarya of Bequant.

“For the institutional crypto industry, it won’t change much as those who could leave have already left and those who couldn’t have either closed or gone under the radar. The retail market, most likely, has gone under the radar and will continue to support market volumes,” he added.

China is the biggest player in bitcoin mining but the majority of the Chinese Bitcoin mining firms and individuals had moved their operations out of China into crypto-friendly countries.

China recently announced it will soon launch its own digital currency. Experts are hoping Beijing will not take more extreme steps. “The Chinese central bank has been lobbying against crypto for a very long time. This recent move wasn’t a surprise to many people as everyone saw it coming,” said Thakral of BuyUcoin. “But we hope China will reconsider its decision and create a healthier environment for crypto enthusiasts moving forward.”



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Author Eswar Prasad, BFSI News, ET BFSI

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By the end of 2021, the Reserve Bank of India is likely to launch trials for its digital currency, following the example of several other countries, from China to the Bahamas, which last year launched its Sand Dollar.

The rise of these central bank digital currencies, or CBDCs, essentially virtual versions of currencies backed by the state, will be a major push towards hastening the demise of cash, says Eswar S Prasad, the Tolani senior professor of trade policy and professor of economics at Cornell University. It’s one of the several revolutionary changes under way that Prasad delves into lucidly in his new book, The Future of Money: How the Digital Revolution is Transforming Currencies and Finance (Harvard University Press and HarperCollins India).

Author Prasad, who previously headed the China division of IMF, spoke to Indulekha Aravind on Zoom about the changes sweeping through the world of finance, and his deadline for the death of cash. Edited excerpts:

As someone who has written about the end of the use of cash, how much of it do you use?
You know, I actually still like cash – its tangibility, the personal connection it creates. Very often, I still tip my Uber drivers and food delivery people with cash. But I think even I am beginning to come to terms with the reality that sooner or later, I’m going to have to have an app on my phone to make payments.

In your book, you say it’s only a matter of time before we stop using cash. What’s driving this?
It’s become clear that it’s possible to provide very low-cost and efficient digital payments, even to people who are relatively poor, who may be unbanked. Countries like China, India and Kenya are leading the way in this. So the technology is there, it is easily scalable and that makes it harder to assume cash is going to remain viable. The other important development is that the new financial technologies, especially those underlying cryptocurrencies, have lit a fire under central banks to start issuing their own digital currencies or at least experimenting with them.

I know that India has announced it may start trials towards the end of this year. So if you have digital versions of central bank money available, in addition to low cost private payment systems, I think cash will organically start disappearing simply because people will find the convenience of digital forms of payment substantially override any of the benefits of cash.

RBI deputy governor T Rabi Sankar had said CBDC is something that is likely to be in the arsenal of every central bank. Would you agree?
From the point of view of a government or a central bank, a CBDC has many advantages. First, it brings a lot of economic activity out of the shadows and into the tax net because any transaction that leaves a digital trail is going to be harder to conceal from the authorities. A digital trail also means there is less likelihood that central bank money will be used for nefarious purposes. In addition, it is likely to deter at least cash-fuelled corruption.

There are also certain broader advantages. There are some countries that experimented with the CBDC which view it as a way to increase financial inclusion, the idea being that if the central bank can provide very low cost digital payments, with no barriers to access, then you can bring many more people into the financial system not just by providing easy access to digital payments, but also by using that perhaps as a portal for basic banking services.

In terms of monetary policy, a central bank might find a CBDC attractive during times of major economic or financial crisis. If the CBDC took the form of each household or each individual having effectively an account with a central bank or a digital wallet, that makes certain monetary policy operations easier. For instance, if I wanted to make cash transfers to the population at a time of a very deep recession, you can do it very easily using a CBDC account.

You’ve talked about the advantages of a CBDC. What are some of the risks?
One of the major risks is that a CBDC ends up disintermediating the banking system. What that means is, if people in a country have access to a central bank account, if that’s the form the CBDC takes, they might prefer that to a commercial bank account, even if that CBDC account pays no interest, because they view it as safer.

This becomes a particular problem when there are concerns about the stability of the banking system — you could have a flight of deposits out of the banking system into CBDC accounts, which could precipitate the exact financial instability a CBDC is trying to avoid. Now, in modern economies, commercial banks still play a very important role in creating money, such as by providing loans.

In a country like India, only about 15 to 20% of money that fuels economic activity is created by the central bank. So if commercial banks start facing threats to their existence, then we have to think very hard about who does the job of money creation or credit allocation equally. The second risk is that a CBDC because it is a digital payment system might end up outcompeting with private payment systems, which would squelch private sector innovation. But there are ways around these risks. With the first risk for instance, one could set up a CBDC account with limits on the amount that can be kept in those accounts.

There’s one final, very significant risk, which is to society as a whole. One can think about digital currencies, both private and central bank issued, as being very efficient and making life better in many ways. But the reality is that anything digital is going to leave a trail. So the sort of privacy and confidentiality that cash gives us is going to be difficult to maintain with a CBDC. Whether we want to live in that world is something we all need to think about not just from economic or technocratic terms, but also at the societal level

What are your thoughts on that — I mean, from a societal point of view?
I worry about that a great deal. We need to give this some serious thought rather than getting caught up in the technological razzle dazzle of digital currencies. If we give away the last vestige of privacy afforded through cash transactions, I worry that that could be a world that provides a lot of possibilities, especially for more authoritarian governments, as part of their surveillance of citizens. Most central banks that are talking about CBDC have tried to portray it as a relatively neutral thing, that it will just be a digital replacement for cash, that it will not bear any interest rate, that you could still maintain some degree of privacy. But again, the technology is here for CBDCs to be turned into some form of smart money.

At certain times, this might be useful for economic policies. For instance, if an economy is in a deep recession and you give people money, some might save that money, and then it doesn’t have the sort of effect you would want it to have on economic demand. So you could set up smart money with expiration dates, saying that you either spend this within the next year and that’s going to help the economy or it expires. That might seem like a good thing, but (then) you have different units of central bank money with different purposes and that’s a potential concern.

You could also think of a government, even a seemingly benevolent one, saying it doesn’t want its money used for certain nefarious purposes, such as buying ammunition. So you can very quickly see how we might end up in a situation where you could have central bank money being used not just for economic, but social objectives. This is a very dystopian future I’m painting. But all of these become real possibilities once you have digital money, which is why I think there needs to be a lot of debate and discussion in society before we move forward with CBDCs, and there needs to be appropriate safeguards in place.

What do you make of India’s approach to fintech and how would you contrast it with China’s?
Fintech has a lot of promise in terms of directly connecting savers and borrowers, broadening financial inclusion, giving the masses easy access to digital payments and also as a portal for basic financial services such as edit, savings products and so on. But technology can cut both ways. Network effects, that is, some companies becoming very big and dominating the market, can bite with a vengeance, especially in any sector that uses technology.

So while technology might make it easier for newer operators and small companies to start innovating, one should also be aware of the risks that you could have of the entire system being captured by a handful of major players. There is an interesting contrast between China and India. In China’s case, the government stepped back and let the private sector provide digital payments, which it did very effectively but it’s come at a cost — competition has been deterred and the two dominant companies – WeChat Pay and Alipay — have become economically and politically quite powerful, which is why the government has recently taken steps to cut them down to size.

India’s approach of the government creating a public infrastructure that all entrants have easy access to, so that the big players are not privileged, is a much better way for a government to proceed. But it also shows that the government really has a role to play. You cannot leave these things entirely to the private sector. So long as the government does not intrude as a direct competitor but provides the technical infrastructure and then create some guardrails, in terms of the use of data and promoting competition and entry, I think that’s a really constructive role the government can play.

Coming to cryptocurrency, how do you view the frenzy around Bitcoin?
Bitcoin, of course, was created with a very interesting objective in mind, which was to allow parties to undertake transactions without the use of a trusted intermediary, such as a central bank. And the fact that Bitcoin came up in 2009, right after the global financial crisis, when trust in central banks and commercial banks was at a real nadir, I think allowed it to gain traction.

Now, the reality is that Bitcoin has proven to be a rather ineffective medium of exchange. Its promise of digital anonymity has proved to be something of a mirage and it also turns out that Bitcoin is very cumbersome and expensive to use. Most importantly, it has very unstable value – it’s as if you took Rs 1000 into a coffee shop and you could buy a small cup of coffee one day and a whole meal another day.

But cryptocurrencies have had a real impact on the financial ecosystem. First, the technology is really a marvel. The benefits of that technology are becoming apparent in some of the newer innovations we are seeing, largely under the rubric of decentralized finance that will allow for a democratization of finance, by giving people much easier access to a broad range of financial products and services, by making it easy for developers to create those products and services. And largely by reducing the cost and increasing the efficiency of those. So I think the legacy of the Bitcoin revolution is going to be with us in different forms, even if cryptocurrencies don’t exist.

Now the irony of Bitcoin and other such private cryptocurrencies is that instead of becoming an effective medium of exchange, they have become speculative assets. People who hold Bitcoin right now seem to hold it in the belief that its value can go only one way, up. To an economist, that seems like one massive speculative bubble because there is no intrinsic value to Bitcoin. Bitcoin adherents will tell you that the reason it has value is because of scarcity, that ultimately there are going to be only 21 million Bitcoins. But to me, scarcity alone doesn’t seem like a durable foundation of value. So we’re going to see some turmoil in the Bitcoin market, as far as investors are concerned.

Would this turmoil reflect in other cryptocurrencies?
There are some who talk about diversifying their holdings of crypto currencies by holding a basket of cryptocurrencies, rather than one. But the evidence indicates that cryptocurrency prices move very closely together. I suspect that if it turns out there are either technological vulnerabilities or a crisis of faith that hits the cryptocurrency investing community, it will quickly spread through the entire cryptocurrency world.

Facebook is planning to launch a digital currency, now called Diem (earlier, Libra). Do you see more MNCs following suit?
It will almost certainly happen. The notion of using your own digital tokens that can work effectively on your platform but can also be extended to other platforms is a temptation that few major corporations are going to be able to resist. There are already Amazon Coins that can be used on the platform and it’s not hard to see that it can be used on other platforms.

But you have concerns…
When Facebook proposed its crypto currency or stable coin, initially called Libra, it professed very noble objectives because the access to digital payments is still very limited in many economies and cross-border payments in particular are fraught with frictions. But the reality is that you would have a major corporation with very substantial financial resources and a worldwide reach that would effectively be managing a currency.

It would hardly be inconceivable that this currency would quickly gain traction and could lead to a situation where Facebook would no longer have its cryptocurrency, backed up by reserves of hard currencies, it would basically become a monetary authority of its own, even though they have indicated they have no plans to do so.

There are also concerns about whether Facebook would sufficiently closely monitor the activity on the payment network so that it could convince regulators that Diem would not be used for illicit money transfers. And it’s not just the financial risk – it would be one more way for FB to get access to our financial and social lives and that is a very disturbing prospect.

My final question — what’s your timeline for the demise of cash?
That depends on how quickly two things happen: the maturing of the technology underlying cryptocurrency so that it can actually provide more efficient payments, and when central banks start rolling out their digital currencies. My sense is that we are going to see very substantial changes in the next three to five years.

Like I said, no central bank is going to eliminate cash but we’ll organically see the use of cash disappearing very fast. Even in economies where cash is very widely used right now, in the next 10 years or so, the use of cash for legitimate financial transactions is going to be at a minimal level.



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